Chatter
A series of conversations (some not-so-mindless Chatter if you will) with thought leaders, politicians, YouTubers, academics, authors, and more. I try to explore ideas and ideologies from all walks of life in order to uncover what truth I can and learn some fun stuff along the way! We get deep into politics, philosophy, conspiracies, corruption, finance, technology and history! Chatter is a podcast from https://www.thejist.co.uk, hosted by Josh Hamilton.
Episodes
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
#109 - Brian Frydenborg on the Capitol Storming, Twitter Bans, and Civil War
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
Brian Frydenborg, the journalist and author, was my guest on today’s show. He is the author of several books on the Trump/Russia connections, including his most recent book on Ukrainegate, the scandal being pushed by the Trump campaign as an attempt to discredit Joe Biden. We spoke about the Trump impeachment, the Capitol storming, and censorship online!
Brian Frydenborg is a freelance writer and consultant from the New York City area who has studied, written, and/or worked in public policy, politics, foreign affairs, security studies, international development, humanitarian aid, and history for two decades. In pursuit of these ends, Brian studied abroad in Japan, went to Liberia to study the UN peacekeeping mission there, went to Israel and Palestine to study the conflict there, and lived and worked for over five years in Jordan, starting in early 2014, until his return to the U.S. in mid-2019. He has been featured in Newsweek, The Jerusalem Post, the Modern War Institute at West Point, The London School of Economics and Politics Middle East Centre, Real Clear Defense, Business Insider, Small Wars Journal, and other diverse outlets. You can see his work on his own news website realcontextnews.com and check out his latest eBooks on Amazon and other eBook stores, including Coronavirus the Revealer and A Song of Gas and Politics: How Ukraine Is at the Center of Trump-Russia, or, Ukrainegate: A “New” Phase in the Trump-Russia Saga Made from Recycled Materials, the latter eBook centering on much of what we discuss in this episode of Chatter.
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https://realcontextnews.com/the-real-context-news-podcast-6-georgias-secretary-of-state-raffensperger-on-election-integrity-georgia-elections/
https://twitter.com/bfry1981
https://www.amazon.com/Brian-Frydenborg/e/B00NGNBF1G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
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Monday Jan 18, 2021
#108 - Hardeep Matharu on Byline Times and Investigative Journalism
Monday Jan 18, 2021
Monday Jan 18, 2021
Hardeep Matharu, Editor at Byline Times was my guest on today’s show. Byline Times are a fairly new investigative reporting based news outlet that has sprung up to fill the gap of investigative journalism in the modern British press. We got into the concept of investigative journalism, the future of print newspapers, and the fight for a free press.
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[https://bylinetimes.com/author/hardeepmatharu/](https://bylinetimes.com/author/hardeepmatharu/)
[https://twitter.com/Hardeep_Matharu](https://twitter.com/Hardeep_Matharu)
[https://hardeepmatharu.wordpress.com/](https://hardeepmatharu.wordpress.com/)
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Thursday Jan 14, 2021
Thursday Jan 14, 2021
Antony Mueller, Professor of Economics, contributor to many economics publications including American Institute for Economic Research and the Mises Institute, and the author of the book series “The Great Financial Crisis of 2008”, was my guest on today’s show. I wanted to ask Professor Mueller on the show in order seriously discuss The Great Reset and Agenda 2030 and what they really entail, how our world is rapidly changing, and the economic problems wrought by our financial system and the current lockdowns.
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[https://mises.org/profile/antony-p-mueller](https://mises.org/profile/antony-p-mueller)
[https://www.aier.org/staffs/antony-mueller/](https://www.aier.org/staffs/antony-mueller/)
[https://twitter.com/antonypmueller?lang=en](https://twitter.com/antonypmueller?lang=en)
[https://antonymueller.medium.com/](https://antonymueller.medium.com/)
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Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
#106 - Katy McCoy and Kate Rowley on Microplastics
Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
Microplastics are everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. Tiny little particles of plastic that break off from plastics in our clothes, rubbish, packaging, and basically anything plastic. But how much danger to they pose to humans, wildlife, or ecosystems? To discuss this I was lucky enough to get to chat to scientists Kate Rowley and Katy McCoy who have been researching the effects of microplastics on wildlife in rivers!
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[https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/microplastics.html](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/microplastics.html)
[https://www.newscientist.com/article/2219687-crabs-are-being-found-in-the-thames-with-stomachs-full-of-plastic/](https://www.newscientist.com/article/2219687-crabs-are-being-found-in-the-thames-with-stomachs-full-of-plastic/)
[https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es2031505](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es2031505)
[https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/about-us/news/studies-show-microplastics-are-causing-a-negative-impact-to-the-health-of-the-river-thames-and-its-inhabitants/](https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/about-us/news/studies-show-microplastics-are-causing-a-negative-impact-to-the-health-of-the-river-thames-and-its-inhabitants/)
[https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/research-and-teaching/departments-and-schools/biological-sciences/news/microplastics-impact-in-river-thames/#:~:text=About%2095%25%20of%20mitten%20crabs,elastic%20bands%20and%20carrier%20bags.](https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/research-and-teaching/departments-and-schools/biological-sciences/news/microplastics-impact-in-river-thames/#:~:text=About%2095%25%20of%20mitten%20crabs,elastic%20bands%20and%20carrier%20bags.)
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Friday Jan 08, 2021
#105 - Ed Straw on How Systems Thinking Could Change The World
Friday Jan 08, 2021
Friday Jan 08, 2021
Ed Straw, a systems thinker who has worked for government and private industry, was my guest on today’s show. Ed is also the host of the Hidden Power podcast, where he discusses ways in which systems thinking can change the world. Our system of government, economy, and election are fundamentally broken and it is time to start imagining how we could rebuild this system for the benefit of all of us!
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[https://www.edstraw.com/about/](https://www.edstraw.com/about/)
[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29213221](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29213221)
[http://www.open.ac.uk/people/es8885](http://www.open.ac.uk/people/es8885)
[http://www.treatyforgovernment.com/ed-straw/](http://www.treatyforgovernment.com/ed-straw/)
[https://twitter.com/edastraw?lang=en](https://twitter.com/edastraw?lang=en)
Tuesday Jan 05, 2021
#104 - Ryan Hartwig on The March on Washington and Big Tech Censorship
Tuesday Jan 05, 2021
Tuesday Jan 05, 2021
Ryan Hartwig, author and Facebook whistleblower for Project Veritas was my guest on today’s show. We covered the irregularities in the US election, the March on Washington, the covid lockdown restrictions, and the increasingly authoritarian over-reach of big tech censorship. Just to clear up one thing before we start, we discussed some mail-in ballot issues in Pennsylvania, but the story was based on a misunderstanding of figures between the June primary elections and the Presidential election. I’ve linked the Politifact article below that explains the error, but I did not check it live on the show.
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***RESOURCES***
https://www.asmp.org/facebook-new-terms-service/
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/FB/facebook/net-worth
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20692524/facebook-five-billion-ftc-fine-embarrassing-joke
https://lawstreetmedia.com/tech/ninth-circuit-rules-for-facebook-in-content-deletion-case/
https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/30/section-230-stimulus-mcconnell-bill-trump/
https://reclaimthenet.org/ivermectin-twitter-blocks-medical-journal/
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/facebook-blocks-sharpiegate-hashtag-election-conspiracies/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9110301/Cheap-hair-lice-drug-cut-risk-hospitalised-Covid-patients-dying-80-study-finds.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-RuvUkcyJI
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/02/ted-cruz-electoral-college-challenge-453430
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/02/elections-2020-cyber-attacks-democrats-experts
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1002133710271567
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/georgia-suitcase-video-ballots-trump-b1766363.html
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Friday Dec 18, 2020
Friday Dec 18, 2020
Jennifer Rauch the author of Slow Media: Why Slow is Satisfying, Sustainable and Smart was my guest on today’s show. I came across her work when researching the idea of slow media. I have been reading a lot this year on the problems with the speed of modern technology and the modern news cycle so I was really interested in talking to someone who takes a fairly unique perspective in trying to reject as much as possible the 24 hour news cycle and our Twitter and Facebook based news consumption. We discussed the need to deliberately choose your news sources, fake news, misinformation, and why slow media can help us all gain more perspective and understanding of the world we inhabit.
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[http://slow-media.org/](http://slow-media.org/)
[https://jennifer-rauch.com/](https://jennifer-rauch.com/)
[https://global.oup.com/academic/product/slow-media-9780190641795](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/slow-media-9780190641795)
[https://theconversation.com/slow-media-how-to-renew-debate-in-the-age-of-digital-authoritarianism-113582](https://theconversation.com/slow-media-how-to-renew-debate-in-the-age-of-digital-authoritarianism-113582)
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Thursday Dec 17, 2020
Thursday Dec 17, 2020
James Dionne, author of Fahrenheit 1984: A Concerned Citizens Manifesto, was my guest on today’s show. I was put in touch with James after my episode on cyber torture was released, he’s a rap artist and author from Canada who has been a victim of organised harassment. I wanted to speak to him about his book, the problems with the term conspiracy theory, the power of governments and intelligence agencies and their capacity to be corrupted. For those of you listening Spotify or other podcast, I have provided links to everything we discuss in the description below. If at any point you think we’ve gone into truly crazy territory, check out the links provided and see for yourself what we are discussing. One thing to clear up, whilst recording I mixed up the Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove, in case anyone is listening and is confused at the mistake. Things get a little crazy in this conversation but stick with us, it was a really enjoyable and interesting discussion and I am sure you’ll enjoy it too!
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[https://www.amazon.ca/Fahrenheit-1984-Concerned-Citizens-Manifesto-ebook/dp/B085XYRXYT](https://www.amazon.ca/Fahrenheit-1984-Concerned-Citizens-Manifesto-ebook/dp/B085XYRXYT)
[https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/thehomelessking](https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/thehomelessking)
[https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp](https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp)
[https://www.businessinsider.com/bohemian-grove-club-us-presidents-2018-3?r=US&IR=T](https://www.businessinsider.com/bohemian-grove-club-us-presidents-2018-3?r=US&IR=T)
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7486279/China-develops-handheld-crowd-control-sonic-gun-causes-eyes-painfully-vibrate.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7486279/China-develops-handheld-crowd-control-sonic-gun-causes-eyes-painfully-vibrate.html#:~:text=4.7k%20shares-,China%20develops%20handheld%20'crowd%20control'%20sonic%20gun%20which%20causes%20eyes,vibrate%2C%20causing%20dizziness%20and%20vomiting&text=China%20has%20developed%20the%20world's,ear%20drums%20and%20internal%20organs.)
[https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/18/china-cooked-indian-soldiers-alive-with-secret-microwave-weapon-13614480/](https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/18/china-cooked-indian-soldiers-alive-with-secret-microwave-weapon-13614480/)
[https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1180427/china-sonic-weapon-beijing-lockdown-world-war-3-crowd-control-hong-kong-spt](https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1180427/china-sonic-weapon-beijing-lockdown-world-war-3-crowd-control-hong-kong-spt)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club)
[https://www.npr.org/2019/09/09/758989641/the-cias-secret-quest-for-mind-control-torture-lsd-and-a-poisoner-in-chief](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/09/758989641/the-cias-secret-quest-for-mind-control-torture-lsd-and-a-poisoner-in-chief)
[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44223523](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44223523)
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55203844](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55203844)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpmi7dBet0c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpmi7dBet0c)
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Wednesday Dec 16, 2020
#101 - Mel Corry on Trademark Belfast and Promoting Anti-Sectarian Dialogue
Wednesday Dec 16, 2020
Wednesday Dec 16, 2020
Mel Corry from Trademark Belfast was my guest on today’s show. Mel is a self-described retired hell raiser, banjo player and Communist. His work with Trademark is focused on going into workplaces and confronting our Northern Irish habit of employing a trifecta of politeness, avoidance, and denial to stop us confronting our sectarian past, the remnants of it that still exist within our society, and how we can improve those discussions and our relationships by actually discussing the issues that remain underlying in Northern Ireland today. I had a lot of fun exploring these issues with Mel and I hope you’ll enjoy our chat!
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Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
#100 - Colin St. John and Milan Kordestani on The Doe and Anonymous Journalism
Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
This is a very exciting moment, the release of my 100th episode! We’ll have releases for you every day this week to celebrate this momentous occasion – I have officially spent over 100 hour talking rubbish on podcasts with a vast range of incredible guests and I’d like to say thank you for anyone who listened over the past 3 years, I hope it wasn’t too painful and that my podcasting has improved since episode one with Jen Senko. My guests today are Colin St. John and Milan Kordestani from The Doe. The Doe is a fantastic website dedicated to allowing people to tell anonymous stories without fear of repercussion and is something that I believe is incredibly important in today’s society where whistleblowers are demonised, doxxed, or harassed. If you haven’t already check out their website and give them a follow on Instagram, their graphics are as stunning as the stories!
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https://www.instagram.com/thedoe/?hl=en
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https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/10/16/2109982/0/en/How-The-Doe-is-Making-Media-Trustworthy-Again.html
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